Mr. WORTHINGTON. I want to ask you whether you, or any of those who went through with you, to your knowledge, were called upon to agree to what I now read, or to it in substance:

"That you, and each of you. do promise and vow that you will never cease to importune High Heaven to avenge the blood of the prophets upon this nation."

Mr. DOUGALL. No, sir.

Mr. WORTHINGTON. Did anything like that occur?

Mr. DOUGALL. Well, as I remember, there is something that might possibly have resembled that.

The CHAIRMAN. We can not hear the witness.

Mr. DOUGALL. There was something, as I remember. that might have led one to believe that such a thing was being done. As I remember it, they importuned Heaven to avenge the blood of the prophets and the martyrs on this generation, I think.

Mr. WORTHINGTON. "On this generation?"

Mr. DOUGALL. I think so; that is as near as I can remember. I would not vouch for that being correct; nothing in regard to this nation.

Mr. TAYLER. This generation?

Mr. DOUGALL. As I remember it.

Mr. WORTHINGTON. Did anything draw your attention particularly to that part of the ceremony?

Mr. DOUGALL. Yes, sir.

Mr. WORTHINGTON. What was it?

Mr. DOUGALL. Previous to going there 1 had read a book that purported to give an expose of the Mormon endowment ceremony, and among them was an obligation that you took, some obligation of disloyalty or enmity to this Government. I was looking out particularly for that particular point.

Mr. WORTHINGTON. You were looking for it?

Mr. DOUGALL. Yes, sir.

Mr. WORTHINGTON. Did it come?

Mr. DOUGALL. No. sir.

Mr. WORTHINGTON. Was there anything of that nature in the ceremony?

Mr. DOUGALL. No, sir.

Mr. WORTHINGTON. Do you remember whether there was anything about Joseph Smith?

Mr. DOUGALL. There was not a thing I remember. I do not remember his name being mentioned at all.

Mr. WORTHINGTON. I do not know whether you care to answer it, but I will ask you if you belong to any organizations which are commonly called secret organizations?

Mr. DOUGALL. I am a Forester now and have been associated with the United Workmen, and at one time to another secret association we had in Utah. We called it the Liberal League.

Mr. WORTHINGTON. Was that anti-Mormon?

Mr. DOUGALL. Anti-Mormon thoroughly.

Mr. WORTHINGTON. That was secret?

Mr. DOUGALL. Yes, sir.

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Mr. TAYLER. You say that as you remember this obligation, it was that the blood of the prophets should be avenged on this generation.

Mr. DOUGALL. Well, to ask God to avenge the blood—

The CHAIRMAN. We can not hear you at all.

Mr. DOUGALL. To ask God to avenge the blood of the prophets and martyrs on this generation. That is the way I remember it. It may not be correct.

Mr. TAYLER. What did you understand was meant by the "prophets? "

Mr. DOUGALL. I do not know.

Mr. TAYLER. Had the oath no meaning to you ?

Mr. DOUGALL. No; it had no meaning in that connection. I was looking for something else.

Mr. TAYLER. You did not know whether it meant Joseph Smith or not?

Mr. DOUGALL. No. I do not know who it meant.

Mr. TAYLER. Who are the martyrs in the Mormon Church?

Mr. DOUGALL. In the Mormon Church?

Mr. TAYLER. Yes.

Mr. DOUGALL. I suppose Joseph Smith and Hyrum Smith.

Mr. TAYLER. And who are the prophets in the Mormon Church?

Mr. DOUGALL. Joseph Smith and Hyrum Smith, who have been martyred. I presume. I do not know anything more.

Mr. TAYLER. What did you understand "this generation" to mean?

Mr. DOUGALL. I do not know that I understood it to mean much.

Mr. TAYLER. Much?

Mr. DOUGALL. No. I was there that day to be married. That was my principal business.

Mr. TAYLER. And you were more intonated in that than in the other?

Mr. DOUGALL. Yes, sir.

Mr. TAYLER. I understand you to say you were watching out very carefully for this obligation.

Mr. DOUGALL. I was; for the obligation of disloyalty to the Government.

Mr. TAYLER. Exactly.

Mr. DOUGALL. Yes, sir.

Mr. TAYLER. But you did not inquire of anybody what was meant by the expression "this generation?"

Mr. DOUGALL. I have inquired since —since this discussion came up — and I am told that it was in the lecture that this was inculcated, and that it was from some chapter in Revelation—copied from that. I do not remember. I have told what I remember.