They were sure that Otto Berndt was the person behind it. He was their guest, they called it, for three days and three nights.

He told us this after the war was over. When they fired questions at him—he said they came like a machine-gun salvo. Quick, fast, meant to irritate him and make him say the wrong thing—contradict what he had said just a minute before.

And he said, something took over for me. I just repeated the same thing again and again and again.

Finally, after three days, they realized that he knew nothing about what had happened with these three young men. They said, “Mr. Berndt, you are free to go.”

And he said, “Do you believe me now? That I didn’t have anything to do with it? That I didn’t know anything about it?”

And they said, “If we had the smallest doubt, you wouldn’t leave this building alive.”

Then they said, “Now remember—we have to win the war. Then we have to solve the Jewish problem,” they said. “And then your Mormons are next. There is no more room in the new Germany for this American church.”

Apparently, he said the right things, and the Nazis never did pursue the church connection behind Hübener. They were unable to find that source. Berndt said the right things.